Are Ragdoll and Siamese Cats the Same?

Last Updated on October 19, 2021 by Jenny

Originally published Oct 25, 2018

The other day on YouTube, someone wrote on our How to Hold a Ragdoll cat video – “Your cats so cool, I really want a siamese ragdoll they’re so bad ass”.  It reminded me about this post.

I replied and said my cats were Ragdolls and he replied, “Really? I thought the ragdolls with that coat were bread with Siamese/Himalayan cats, but tbh Idk a ton about cats all I know is I want one of those lol”.

I then replied, “No, Ragdoll is a breed of cat, Siamese is a breed of cat, Himalayan is a breed of cat – all separate. All are known as colorpointed cat breeds – meaning they change color as they age and show their color the most on their points.”

Surprisingly, this is a frequently asked question among cat lovers far and wide.  Growing up, I can’t tell you how many people who saw my childhood Ragdoll cat, Rags, and thought he was a Siamese.

Ragdoll and Siamese cats are often confused due to some similarities that these breeds share in terms of colors and patterns but they are very different breeds from many points of view.

This articles talks about the similarities, as well as the differences between Ragdolls and Siamese cats so that you can get an idea of the unique features of each of these cats.

Gatsby, a seal point Siamese, loved by Monica.
Gatsby, a seal point Siamese, loved by Monica.
Chico a seal point Ragdoll cat loved by Patricia
Chico, a seal point Ragdoll cat loved by Patricia.

Ragdolls and Siamese Cats – Similarities

The biggest characteristic shared between Ragdoll and Siamese cats is the seal color pattern of their fur. This means the white to creamy white bodies with dark brown masks, ears, tails, and mittens in contrast.

Since this combination of colors is quite different from those seen in other breeds, people often associate it with a single breed, thus confusing the Ragdoll and the Siamese.

While this pattern can be found in both cat breeds, there are plenty of elements that can be used to differentiate the two.

Ragdolls and Siamese Cats – Differences

In this section of the article, I am going to relay the most important differences between the two cat breeds. The main objective is disambiguation on this very common Ragdoll-related confusion.

Ella a 12 year old chocolate point Siamese owned by Louise Miller
Ella a 12 year old chocolate point Siamese owned by Louise Miller

Breed Origins

Siamese – As the name may suggest, Siamese cats come from Thailand (Siam) and they are one of the oldest cat breeds in the entire world, dating back to 1351 AD.

In 1878, US President Rutherford B. Hayes received a Siamese cat, which was the first ever of its breed to reach the US. As for the modern version of the breed, it came in the 1950-1960’s, when there was a boost of interest in cats of this particular display.

Ragdolls – This breed also came about in the 1960s when seal point cats were all the rage. The first ever Ragdoll came from a Persian/Angora cat that bred with several unknown Birman males, out of which one presented the Siamese staple seal point coloration.

Ann Baker of Riverside, California developed the Ragdoll breed and trademarked the name.


Siamese – The typical Siamese cat has a very short, yet uniquely silky coat. Please note that there are no long-haired Siamese cats. Fluffy siamese cat? No, silky but not fluffy. But the Balinese are known for their purebred long-haired Siamese cats.

Ragdoll – The breed standard for Ragdolls is the long coat of silky texture, which is similar to the touch of rabbit fur.

Please note that Ragdolls do not have undercoats, which makes them shed significantly more than other cat breeds.

Color Patterns

Siamese – While the seal point Siamese cat is the breed’s best-known color variety, these cats also come in several other colors – blue point, chocolate point, lilac point, flame point, and cream point.

As you may expect, in the beginning, the breeders and the cat associations have considered all the other colors to be inferior to the traditional seal point Siamese cat. But as the breed grew more and more popular, they eventually accepted various patterns, such as tabby, lynx, or tortie.

Ragdoll – This breed became popular with seal point individuals. As such, to this day, this is the most common type of Ragdoll cat. However, like for the Siamese, there is significant variety in colors and patterns.

Ragdolls also include blue, chocolate, lilac, flame point, and cream point individuals. As far as patterns are concerned, Ragdolls also have tabbies, torties, and lynxes.


Siamese – Known worldwide as one of the most intelligent cats out there, the Siamese makes for an excellent pet. They are very affectionate, yet social, and particularly vocal and agile.

Siamese cats tend to get attached to a single person but they will be sociable with the entire family. They are extroverts in the true sense of the word and they thrive on human and/or cat companionship.

Ragdoll – The trait that Ragdolls are known all over the world for is their docile nature. These cats are particularly calm and loving, up to the point where their floppy behavior has inspired their name (Ragdoll).

But don’t let their calm nature fool you, for Ragdolls are extremely intelligent and very social.

As you can see, Ragdoll and Siamese cats are quite different in spite of the fact that they share the amazing seal point coloration.

Each of these two fantastic breeds has some amazing characteristics, but they are many things that make them different one from the other.

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22 thoughts on “Are Ragdoll and Siamese Cats the Same?

  1. Mary Kaldahl says:

    Hi Jenny! Enjoyed reading your article about the difference between the Siamese and Ragdoll cats.
    I have a long-haired cat named Shaggy, and he is a tuxedo with strong ragdoll
    characteristics. Very laid back, floppy when he’s picked up, very cuddly.
    I can’t help but think he has a strong ragdoll gene in him, though his mama was a gray tabby. I found that interesting.

  2. MaryLynn says:

    I love both the Siamase and Ragdoll. I rescued a ferrel kitten. She is 8 months old and can be hard to handle. She looks like a Siamese Ragdoll.

  3. Nancy White says:

    Maybe talk about the difference between Ragdolls and Birmans. We have a beautiful seal point Birman and we chose home over a Ragdoll or Himalayan because of his single silky coat which never Matt’s. All three have sweet, gentle natures and are hard to resist.

  4. Carol Van Gorp says:

    To all the cats I’ve loved before…two Siamese, one Birman and three Ragdolls…and one Mexican street cat… The biggest difference I see is that of personality. My Ragdolls have been mellow, go with the flow kind of cats whereas the Siamese have been way more hyper. So protective of me one even bit my husband, repetitively…

  5. Patti Johnson says:

    Such a great re-post, Jenny honey! TYSVM for sharing this info again. Truly a wonderful & very educational post! 🙂 <3

    Big hugs & lots of love & purrs!

    Patti & Miss Pink Sugarbelle 🙂 <3 <3 <3

  6. Thomas Finkle says:

    Hi Jenny,
    I’m confused. I adopted three pointed kittens last year. One is a lynx point, another is a chocolate point, and the what I thought was a long hair, chocolate point Siamese mix.

    We don’t know their history. They are assumed to be siblings. They were found in the same neighborhood and are the same age.

    The lynx point and chocolate are very soft, playful and loving while not very vocal. The vocal one is the long haired kitten. She trills to let my wife and I know she wants attention. She does this often.

    She is almost a year old and neither her or her siblings shed. She’s not quite as silky as her siblings.

    Is it possible that she’s a Siamese mix with a long hair breed?

    Warm regards,

  7. Greg Williams says:

    Hi, my name is Greg, I have a female sealpoint cat that looks like a ragdoll cat in all ways except she doesn’t have mittens on her paws, there all dark brown, you have any idea what kind of cat she might be, she weights about 12 pounds

  8. Patti Roper Pearson says:

    Good article, but I was surprised when you said that there were no long-haired Siamese cats that you didn’t follow up with a mention of Balinese which share the pointed and blue-eyed characteristics and are recognized as a separate breed, but which do have a long silky coat. I have been owned by many, many Siamese (and what I call Semi-meeze) cats and currently am owned by a Balinese and a Ragdoll. The Balinese cats are an offshoot of the Siamese breed and also share the intelligence of the other two breeds. My Balinese isn’t as outgoing and social, until he becomes comfortable around someone. My Ragdoll, George, on the other hand assumes that anyone in the house is there to see him! He is the official greeter and maintenance supervisor! And at just a hair shy of 20 pounds, many of my friends refer to him as my dog-cat.

  9. Patti Johnson says:

    SUPER PAWESOME post & info, Jenny! I learned A LOT!!! When I’m out walking one of my favorite walking routes I encounter a beautiful inside-outside Siamese kitty with a pretty glittery collar (with her address on it) and she is so affectionate and friendly and always greets me for a petting session before she continues on her outside adventures on her street…lurve it!! 🙂 <3

    Big hugs & lots of love!

    Patti & Miss Pink Sugarbelle 🙂 <3 <3 <3

  10. Beth says:

    Great article, Jenny – and viva la difference! People often refer to Ragdolls as “long-haired Siamese” when, as we know, nothing could be further from the truth. My old friend and former boss called Siamese kitties “monkeys in cat costumes” which I thought was pretty accurate. I much prefer Ragdolls’ personalities and appearance although, of course, I love all creatures (especially cats).

    • Dee says:

      I have a snowshoe Siamese and a Ragdoll. Both were sold to me as a snowshoe breeder. But my male rag was sold as a female. I love both of them. The Siamese in them makes them wonderful pets (they get very attached to their owners). But the white markings come from the bicolor (tuxes) and those give them other great characteristics.

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