What Do You Feed Your Cat?

Last Updated on March 9, 2020 by Jenny

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I cannot tell you how many times I have been asked this question in the last three years of working on this site.  It is not a question I have a problem with answering, but I am not confident in what I give my cats.

Charlie is addicted to dry food and I know it is not great for him, but it is working for me in my life right now.  I have gathered information to switch him soon.  Trigg isn’t as difficult to please, so I think he will accept any change that I will bring.  So they split a can of wet food in the morning, which Charlie will not touch and then I give them measured out amounts of dry food the rest of the day.  Both foods are grain free.

So I am taking a poll – what do you feed your cat?  Please feel free to leave a detailed comment on this post explaining what you feed your kitty and why – please include (if applicable):

  • what you think is the best canned cat food and why
  • what you think is a premium pet food
  • if you have any homemade cat food recipes
  • if you feed your kitty natural raw cat food
  • what you think is healthy pet food

This topic can be controversial.  It doesn’t need to be.  I am looking for information to gain knowledge and knowledge is power.  I hope we can support one another and help our kitties at the same time.

While I want to hear from everyone – I know the Europeans that read this blog might have different kinds of food available for their kitties – please include them!  I am all ears!

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38 thoughts on “What Do You Feed Your Cat?

  1. Catherine Austin says:

    I feed my older ragdoll Royal Canin indoor which she loves and my kitten Royal Canin Kitten. I find that these dry foods are actually quite good for my kitties as long as they drink plenty of water.
    I do also give them wet food (generally whiskers premium) but they aren’t overly fussed on it.
    BTW I live in Australia so I’m not sure if you get those foods over there?

  2. Jay xx says:

    Its completely healthy to feed your cat raw meat. i started my baby on dry and wet food to begin but switched after hearing from my cousin (who feeds her cat raw meat), hearing it on the bbc and reading online that raw food is generally better for cats due to their digestive system but mainly because it best resembles the diet they would have in the wild. Cats are natural pedators and like their bigger cousins are designed to eat meat raw.
    After switching my baby to a raw food diet I noticed a change in her fur, energy levels and also in her litter tray (she does a number two A LOT less than she used to which is definitely a bonus for me considering its a lot less smelly when i go to clean it). She also prefers it much more than normal cat food and wont touch the stuff now. Here’s a link going more in depth on how and why a raw food diet is better. I definitely recommend a raw food diet 🙂

    • Jenny says:

      Tiffany, I have heard it totally is – but I’ve never done it (although I wish I had!).

      You could always check out the raw cat food boards to see what they had to say!

  3. Rebecca says:

    How did I miss this posting. I feed prey model raw
    They get 10% bone, 5% organ (which we are still working on) the rest meat. I buy mostly muscle meat as that has the most taurine. I still slice in strips, sort of like fettuccine. I am working towards putting a wing or thigh down with out cutting but not there yet.

      • Rebecca says:

        just at the grocery store, wish I could feed organic, but heck can’t afford that for myself. Just make sure that the meat is not enhance (meaning they added salt). Asian markets are great too, again check for salt content.

  4. Jenna says:

    We are from Australia. We feed our female ragdoll kangaroo mince at night. We mix her breakfast up each day, it can be either shaved ham, pork, chicken breast, silver side, turkey etc. During the day she snacks on dry food. She refuses to eat tin/canned food.

  5. Beth says:

    None of our cats would ever eat Iams, dry or canned. My vet used to give sample packets of Hills Science Diet’s new offerings which our cats always gobbled up BUT, when I bought a bag of the same kind, they didn’t want it. I’ve been feeding them Purina Naturals since it first came out. They do well on this dry food and my neighbor’s cats do also. Naturals is there 24/7 whenever they want some. I feed a variety of canned Friskies in the morning and at night. For something different, I substitute Whiskas moist food (pouches) and the tiny bowls of wet Meow Mix. They like Party Mix treats and Greenies, too. My husband gives them little tastes of any meat he’s eating also.
    We have tried practically every kind of cat food and settled on the ones I listed here.

  6. rachael and v8 says:

    My V8 has a constant supply of Iams busicuts (chicken) on tap and she also goes through about 3 tins/pouches of wet food daily. Iams Chicken pouches and Fancy Feast Medleys Chicken or Salmon canned. When I say 3 tins, sometimes she does not quite empty her bowl but demands a fresh one and her bowl always has something in it.

    She has raw steak and mince, fresh chicken and loves deep fried fish fillets (no batter of course!) She will probably have raw/fresh meat about 3 times a week. She also has egg and weakly diluted milk to mix about once a month for her coat.

    And yes, she did have to go on a diet for three months cos she was getting a wee bit fat lol but she is just right now according to her vet! 🙂

    V8 will not touch cooked meat with a barge pole no matter what it is except fresh fish fillets. She even knows the difference between those boxed ones from the supermarket and the real deal and she will not touch a boxed fish fillet.

    I rekon cats need raw meat (from a trustworthy source) and should not recieve any non meat treats. V8 would eat cheese and any type of dip by the ton if she could get her little mitts on the stuff – she has been caught licking the dip bowl to death 🙂

    I consider Iams to be the best of the processed variety and se really likes it which helps. I like to make sure that she eats mostly this for her wet food but she loves her Medleys so I let her have one a day. As a kitten she had a couple of UTI’s and her vet recommended wet food only to help with this but she seems to have grown out of that problem as her vet predicted (she’s 3 now) and so her vet has allowed biscuts in the last year.

    I am not a fan of the dry food so much as am aware of the bladder problems it can cause but recognise the benefit to teeth and the other nutritional value of a good brand. V8 has a take em or leave em attitude to them (I probably fill her bowl about four times a week) and so I don’t worry to much about her having too much dry food. She also drinks very well.

    I am strict simply because her previous bladder issues and I worry about her little kidneys processing all that salt and her digestive system processing all that other crap. Cats are not dogs – I don’t rekon they should be fed people food. And certianly no processed people food.

    Just cos they like it doesn’t mean its good for them lol.

    • admin says:

      This must be a NZ saying, “will not touch cooked meat with a barge pole” – I’ve never heard it before and the image of it made me laugh out loud. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I wonder if the IAMs formula served in NZ is the same as the one in the USA.

  7. Melody says:

    Great topic! I think this is one that many pet owners tend to worry about and contemplate for some time, I know I did when I did have a cat. I know more about cats now that I conducted extensive research over Ragdolls as a breed but ended up learning about what is considered healthy and what is not for cats. However, this seems to depend on the individual cat sometimes! Grain-free is definitely the way to go, which is something I wish I knew before my cat passed.

    I was also debating what the best course of food would be best in the future when I have another kitty in my life, dry food versus wet food or a combination of both? Realistically, it depends on the individual’s situations as well – financially and etc. Dry food may be better financially but not in health overall, although some cats seem to live for 15-20 years without many health issues. After researching, I learned that grain-free is the best course, I actually learned a lot about cat health and diets from this site! Such as the raw food diet, grain-free, and much more.

    I have decided that in the future, if I absolutely need to give my cats dry food then I would go with one of the following brands: Nature’s Variety (Instinct/Prarie Kibble), Primal Pet Foods, or Redmoon Custom Pet food (discovered from floppycats). Links: http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/default.aspx, http://www.naturesvariety.com/products/cat

    Even if I do end up having to feed my future cats dry food, I will still feed them wet food too in the morning and at night but leave some dry food in their dish during the day in case they get hungry as I work. Although I have researched about cat health in regards to their diets, I have often wondered exactly how often are we supposed to feed our cats? How often do they have to eat? Does this depend like everything else?

    Aside from buying pet food, we can also make our own raw cat food but you NEED to be on top of it and dedicated to doing it. I often visit this site to view recipes and such: http://www.catinfo.org/?link=makingcatfood
    I also browse the recipes available on floppycats 🙂 Although I do not think I have the discipline to maintain a raw food diet personally made by me for my future cats, I am planning on trying to make them raw food treats.

    When my cat had tummy troubles or refused to eat however, I fed her some baby food.

    Past Food Attempts:
    I have tried Hill’s Science Diet, Iams (both dry and wet), Purina, Friskies (both dry and wet), and Evo (both dry and wet). There seems to be some debate about Hill’s Science Diet so I am just going to skip that one. After my cat passed and I conducted research on Ragdolls, I learned that popular cat food brands like Iams, Purina, and Friskies were not considered healthy for cats due to their ingredients. However, some cats do not seem to be affected until old age which is when health issues usually occur for the majority. I did not like Evo, my cat ate it fine but I think it gave her tummy troubles because her bowel movements smelled funky and her face looked pained as she went!

    Lastly, I also fed bits and pieces of chicken and fish to my cat.

    If you read this, thanks for reading – it was somewhat lengthy!

    • admin says:

      Melody, thanks for your ideas and knowledge. I should be mentioning http://www.catinfo.org more often as it is an incredible resource. I love that website – read it frequently when I first started my site, but have been busy lately and haven’t kept up. I feel like I am getting information from all sources and I need to make a decision that is best for me and my cats. I will be making one soon. Thanks for the comment.

  8. Coinneach Fitzpatrick says:

    My girls eat Blue Buffalo Wilderness dry and canned. I put out a can for them in the morning and they snack on dry throughout the day.

    • admin says:

      Charlie and Trigg are eating Blue Buffalo Wilderness too – Duck and Chicken. They love the dry and hate the canned. I have found it has Yucca in it which is toxic to cats, so I need to change it up.

      • sandy says:

        I just picked up some blue Wilderness becasue so many strangers I have run into letley tell me how well their Cats do on it……..I saw the Yuca and thought??
        Hey isn’t that Toxic?? NOO can’t be…now I guess I have to return it :O((
        Why would they add this?? Has any one written the Company as as why??
        tell them to take it out????

      • sandy says:

        I had a pet parent do some research on the YUCCA and she could not find and info that proved the Yucca to be detrimental????? She had found one study that was not conclusive so I NOW do not know what to think on n this YUCCA subject??????

  9. admin says:

    I wanted to thank everyone for leaving comments on this post – I am knee deep in work and cannot take the time right now that I want to read these comments and respond with appreciation. I will though, very soon! But wanted to say, THANKS! first!

  10. michelle says:

    This is such a fascinating topic to me. I have switched my humane society special dog Mel (best guess, Great Dane/Collie/St. Bernard Cross, 140lb), Sampson, another rescue, part siamese, part something else, and Soleil, also rescue, apparently ragdoll siamese cross to people food, cooked, several years ago.

    I did a bit of research before the big pet food recall and was shocked to find out the camps were seriously divided – if you feed your pet people food, you’ll kill them, if you feed them commercial food, you’ll kill them. So I stuck with the Nutro I’d always fed (at the time I had just Mel). Then the recall happened, and not being really concerned, checked the recall list for interest’s sake. And there was Nutro. I bought Dr. Pitcairns’s Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats and leapt in with both feet. I’ve collected a ton more books since then, and found a subscription to Animal Wellness is wonderfully helpful.

    There are some things you need to avoid (like onions), and some supplements you must give them, like taurine, if you’re cooking the food. There’s lots of reference material about that.

    I can’t remember where I read it, but the comment that really made sense to me was: Even if there was a people food, available in a can or a dry format that was supposed to meet all your nutritive needs, and you could spice it up by mixing the 2 together, or a bit of warm water to the dry, do you think eating that every day would really be good for you?

    And then, look at the list of ingredients on any pet food bag or can (or let’s be fair, any processed people food) and it’s a really long list, with very little that only a chemical engineer is going to even be able to pronounce, never mind identify. I think for anyone eating a less processed diet is a good thing.

    I feed cooked food as it squicks me out less than raw, and because Sampson doesn’t eat the raw food recipes. I experimented to find out. I don’t really follow any set recipes anymore. I have a slow cooker, which I love, and a food processor. The slow cooker lets me use inexpensive cuts of meat, and beans, lentils. And I really love being able to put the meal on the night before, and have it just right at dog and cat temperature when supper rolls around the next night.

    Today we had what I call exotically Salmon Mousse. I cook a big pile of vegetables, this time it was carrots, sweet potatoes, and butternut squash. I usually add some grains to their diet too, but I lean towards the protein type grains, like oatmeal and quinoa. Today it was quinoa. I put a couple cups of cooked veggies, a bit of the veggie water from cooking, and 2 or 3 cans of salmon in the food processor with the blade that sits in the bottom of the bowl, hit the button, and let it whir around until it looks like a mousse consistency. This would work equally as well if you mooshed it all up with a potato masher.

    Because I’d like Mel to drop a few pounds, I load her bowl up with a lot of veggies (this is at the suggestion of her vet), and then put the salmon mousse on top. The cats get the straight mousse, always served on a plate, as neither one of them like bowls. I’ve read that’s because cats don’t like their whiskers touching the sides of a bowl.

    I find the food processor is very useful. While oddly, Sampson loves green beans and will go for them first in any dish, sometimes they’ll leave stuff behind. If you whirr it all up in the food processor, they’ll eat it all. Another good thing about cooking for your animals, presentation isn’t an issue with them. 🙂

    I’ve been very surprised by what everyone likes. Mel is a bit of a hoover, and eats whatever I put down. Sampson, while being a complete clock watcher and beats me to their eating spot every day, is pretty fussy. And some of his favourite meals are chili and lasagna. I know, I didn’t expect it either. Soleil is also pretty easy going, and not a clock watcher at all. She loves milk and milk products (I have to watch my cereal bowl and yogurt and ice cream), but Sampson doesn’t care for them at all. It only makes sense, our animals’ personalities are as diverse as ours, they’re not all going to like the same thing.

    I used to free feed Mel, but when I switched her over to people food (for lack of a better term), we went to feeding once a day. She was fine with the transition. I brought Sampson and Soleil home from the SCPA and started them on people food right away, with no problems. Everybody eats at 3:00, Mel eats everything all in one sitting, and the cats will eat most of it at that time, but keep going back over the next little while.

    When I went looking for emergency food when I didn’t have stuff cooked, I was totally iccked out by the canned food, even the good stuff. Didn’t look good, didn’t smell good. Now I keep canned salmon on hand for emergency food. And it’s really good for them, as it is for us, with all the omega 3 oils in it. And if you compare the price of good quality canned food to the price of salmon (I buy bundles of salmon cans at my big grocery store) it’s not really more expensive. The other easy plan for emergency food is to cook a couple of extra batches and throw them in the freezer so you can thaw them out quickly when you need them.

    I think this has given me much healthier animals. Mel is about 9, and obviously a large dog, and still behaves like a puppy. Soleil is probably 4 or 5 and plays like a kitten. Sampson is pretty serious in character, but also in very good shape. What really struck me was after we all visited my parents last year. My parents still live on the farm, half a country away from where I live at the moment. So I loaded all of us up, and we drove home. Theoretically, a stressful event. But even my Mom, who is not an animal fanatic like me, thought their coats were gorgeous. She even commented after we left that she’d petted other cats and their coats felt horribly coarse and unhealthy compared to my two.
    My decision to feed people food was solidified when we were at home too. Mom and Dad feed their dog dry food (a good brand). The cats were being really barfy, which is highly unusual (another benefit, you have next to no hairballs on people food). I discovered they were getting into the dog food and eating that instead. After I closed that up, the barfies quit completely. Of course, it obviously tasted good to them. I was wounded. 🙂 I slave over a hot stove for you, and this is how you show your appreciation? I guess it’s like parents whose kids rave about Mcdonalds but regularly turn their noses up at home cooked meals.

    And, I find the litter box is much less stinky than when they eat commercial foods. I’m not saying it’s a box of roses, but it definitely different from when my cats in the past have eaten commercial.

    One of the other great things is that you can eat whatever you’re cooking your animals. If I ate with them every night, I’d be much healthier.

    Well, that turned into a small novel. Obviously, something I’m kinda passionate about. I’m more than happy to email with anyone who’d like to know any more about my experiences with feeding.


    • admin says:

      Michelle – I got confused about what you were feeding your dog and what you were feeding your kitties in this post. Can you help me understand? Thanks, Jenny

      • michelle says:

        Well, they all get the same basic recipe. Cats typically need more fat, and more protein. So I mess with the proportions of things. I’ll add an extra glug of olive oil, or omega 3 oil to the cats’ portion, and add some more of whatever meat is in the recipe I’m making. But, you know, I really haven’t got obsessive about exactly what I’m feeding Sampson and Soleil vs Mel (the dog). Mel’s getting more vegetables right now to fill her up but cut down on the calories. The cats don’t need to lose any weight, so they get whatever recipe I’ve made without the extra vegetables. I have to admit as time went on, I started winging it more, and not following any strict recipes.

        • sandy says:

          WoW my spelling was horrid in this post :O))
          right now we are using GO purple bag of chicken/turkey/duck………I like it the cats are so so as far as liking it.I have been looking at orijen again and it really sounds like a great company and product…..hard to get just any place though :O(( I like to mix 2 to have cats used to 2 as backup like some other readers.
          we also use can’s EVO and Wellness

  11. Melanie says:

    I usually feed a blend of Evo and Taste of the Wild. Both are grain- free. I started doing a blend in case our local pet store runs out of one or the other. That helps me avoid a sudden dietary change. (The store is really tiny so stock can be unreliable.) In addition they each get half a can of Wellness or Evo.

    I consider a quality food to be grain-free with human grade ingredients.

    • admin says:

      I have not tried Evo or Taste of the Wild. I will look into those. I have heard of both, but just haven’t done it. I am going to ask a reader friend of mine who is very knowledgeable and see what she thinks.

      • Tobi Michaels says:

        I have tried all the healthy foods Evo, Inova, Blue, Taste of the wild and now I will splurge one more time and try Now but my cats, now only one cat refused it all. The only food they like is purina natural and one.I used to feed Iams to my Mr. Bitters but when the vet could not find out why he was sick I started all these foods which he refused or threw up. Milo is a young cat and is still ok but he also refused all the healthy stuff. I want him to live healthy but the store stuff must taste better, maybe byproducts is better tsting than fruit and vegies. I know I would rather have a donut than brocoli. they also get wet food along with the dry but only a lg. spoonfull in the morning and this they also will not eat the inovas or evos so its fancy feast. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

  12. Amy Nievera says:

    I feed my cats Blue Buffalo kitten food, dry, 1/4 cup each three times a day. That seems like a lot but when we were feeding them half that amount for about a month, they acted like we were starving them. One of the kittens seems chubbeh now; I’m not sure if that’s just his body type and he’s a tomcat so he should be bigger. (The other kitten is a female and the runt. He’s twice her size.) Sometimes we feed wet food (The Good Life) at night. The kitties are happy with whatever we give them though I noticed when we first started giving them Blue Buffalo instead of Purina One, they were extra happy. Recently I bought a couple cans of Trader Joe’s wet cat food to try. They’re grain-free if I remember right and only $0.99 a can.

    What you think is the best canned cat food and why – I don’t have a preference for best canned food. I’m still testing them out. In general, I go for anything grain-free but I’m trying to find a balance between health and price. We can’t feed them the expensive stuff because of money.

    What you think is a premium pet food – Premium pet food is anything you wouldn’t normally find in a supermarket and completely grain-free.

    If you have any homemade cat food recipes – No, not yet. My mother used to feed her cat raw tuna and boiled lettuce. I don’t know why she did that or where she got the idea. The cat ate it though.

    If you feed your kitty natural raw cat food – We’re thinking of transitioning them to it; the problem is the raw food goes bad quickly in the dish and we’re not always around to watch the cats eat. Usually I feed them right before leaving for work in the morning, then my husband feeds them in the afternoon when he gets back from work before he takes a nap, and then I feed them at night before going to bed. We fed them a cup of raw chicken once. One of the cats seemed to have problems chewing it, possibly because they’re teething (I think), but otherwise it went over well.

    What you think is healthy pet food – Anything grain-free.

    I’m really anti-grain, apparently!

  13. Carol says:

    We have been feeding our cats Purina One dry food for over 25 years. We used to buy what ever looked good, but once you have a cat with a bladder infection you quickly learn to pay attention to what you feed. The two boys who changed our way of feeding lived to be 18 and 19. Once on Purina One we never had another bladder problem. We feed a pouch of Whiskas Purrfectly Fish or a can of Fancy Feast fish and shrimp divided for 2 of them in the morning and they nibble the Purina One the rest of the day. Our third kitty does not like canned food so she likes a little cheddar cheese from time to time.

  14. Jill says:

    I have been feeding my 11 month old Ragdoll Wellness wet cat food only for the past 6 mos or so and he has been doing great. He gets 1/3 of the large cans in the am and in the pm. It is grain free. Really the only problem I have had with feeding him wet only is that he wakes us up between 4:30 and 5:00am to be fed! The reason I switched to just wet is after reading the article you recommended – don’t remember where it was from – but it really made sense. It seems many of the health issues we now have with cats ( kidney problems, diabetes, obesity) can be completely avoided by avoiding dry food. I have noticed since switching to wet the amount of water he drinks has been much less but he still seems to urinate just as frequently.

  15. Deborah says:

    I feed my kitties Royal Canin adult cat food. The main reason is that one of my cats, Mister Bingley, refuses to cover up his poo in the litter box, and he is one STINKY cat. I had read that Royal Canin makes your cat’s poo not smell as bad so I bought a bag and IT WORKED! Seriously! I used to be able to smell Mister B’s poo from another room and would have to run to cover it up (sometimes my other cat, Penelope, would clean it up because it even bothered HER); now, I don’t smell it at all! I like that it’s made out of quality ingredients as well, and the kitties seem to enjoy it. It also makes their coats nice and shiny.

    I typically feed my cats wet food once or twice a week as a special treat. I’m not terribly particular about the kind of wet food they eat, so I just get whatever is on sale at Target.

  16. Brita says:

    Annabella doesn’t want wet food, and she doesn’t like treats!!! So all she gets is Wellness brand for indoor cats, with a sprinkle of the Wellness Complete Health in the red bag. It has cranberry, which she seems to enjoy. Can’t wait to hear what everyone else says.

  17. Barbara says:

    I am sooo glad you have opened this subject, because I am struggling with what to feed my babies. They eat and like friskies canned (split small can between 3 cats–so I’m not overdoing it.) I tried them on Wellness and my ragdoll got very sick, throwing up and diarrhea, even though I tried it very gradually.

    I wanted to get t hem on grain-free. I tried Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover’s Soul for a while, and they liked it at first, but now don’t. They did not like Felidae at all, which I think is grain-free. Now I am trying Call of the Wild, which is grain free–still mixing it with the remainder of the Chicken Soup brand. They are not “wild” about any of the dry foods I’ve given them. I’ve heard that the foods with grains and fillers just cause them to gain weight, and blow them up like they’re full, but are bad nutritionally.

    I have thought about and tried to talk to people about a raw diet, but don’t know how to introduce it, or what to get. I was told that cooking chicken and giving it to them (which they’d love) is not nutritionally valuable like raw meat.

    What to do? Hopefully we will get a lot of response.

    • Pam Bucci says:

      My cat throws up everything except Royal Canin for sensitive stomachs. She loves Merricks wet food patte but she can’t keep it down. All my other cats love it too.

  18. Rebekah C says:

    I forgot to mention that we now mix in Lysine with the wet food, since Taro had been sneezing basically since we got him from the breeder. The lysine has definitely strengthened his immune system since he no longer sneezes or has watery eyes.

    Taro also sometimes steals some of Gemma’s doggie treats, and he really seems to like them.

  19. Rebekah C says:

    what you think is the best canned cat food and why:

    We currently free-feed our cats Wellness Core dry food, which is grain free. We leave down two bowls all day long, and refill as needed with a 1/2 cup in each bowl. We also feed wet food twice a day, particularly for Taro, our 10 month old Ragdoll. For the wet food, we change it up daily, alternating between Wellness kitten canned, assorted Wellness grain free cans, Avoderm canned, Natural Balance canned, Soulistic canned, and believe it or not, Fancy Feast appetizers (real meat). We’ve also tried Royal Canin kitten canned, but Taro doesn’t seem to like it. I don’t really have a preference among those listed. We feed both wet and dry to help them maintain a healthy weight and to ensure that they both receive enough liquids to avoid any bladder issues.

    what you think is a premium pet food:
    I think Wellness, Avoderm, Natural Balance, and Blue are all premium, but what do i know?!

    if you have any homemade cat food recipes:
    I’ve tried some recipes for tuna treats, but neither of the cats liked them. Gemma, our Brittany Spaniel, thought they were delicious though!

    if you feed your kitty natural raw cat food:
    We don’t feed raw, but we’ve talked about it. I think it would just take too much time, and I am far too busy to deal with it.

    what you think is healthy pet food:
    Loaded question….I think premium ingredients, grain free, a mix of wet and dry, and also some raw meat would constitute an ideal mix.

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