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July 23, 2011
7:15 pm
Kitty Cowgirl
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Please learn from my mistake. My breeder told me not to vaccinate for Rabies, FIV and Feline Leukemia if my cat was full time indoors, which he was. I mistakenly trusted my vets advise to vaccinate for all of the above. On Tuesday, 7/10/2011, my 1 year old male (Theo) was vaccinated for rabies and nearly immediately became ill. Despite multiple calls to my vet and, eventually, him taking me seriously, there was nothing I could do to save Theo who died 8 hours after receiving his rabies vaccination. Please, please, please consider, research and use only a feline specialist vet for your Ragdolls.(My vet was very incompetent and did not diagnose the reaction. I had to tell him it was a rabies vaccine reaction from what I learned on the internet).

Please avoid my heartache and consult your breeder and only use a cat specialized veterinarian.

RIP Theo sf cry Ragdoll Cat Forum

July 23, 2011
9:10 pm
Jenny
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Kitty Cowgirl said:

Please learn from my mistake. My breeder told me not to vaccinate for Rabies, FIV and Feline Leukemia if my cat was full time indoors, which he was. I mistakenly trusted my vets advise to vaccinate for all of the above. On Tuesday, 7/10/2011, my 1 year old male (Theo) was vaccinated for rabies and nearly immediately became ill. Despite multiple calls to my vet and, eventually, him taking me seriously, there was nothing I could do to save Theo who died 8 hours after receiving his rabies vaccination. Please, please, please consider, research and use only a feline specialist vet for your Ragdolls.(My vet was very incompetent and did not diagnose the reaction. I had to tell him it was a rabies vaccine reaction from what I learned on the internet).

Please avoid my heartache and consult your breeder and only use a cat specialized veterinarian.

RIP Theo sf cry Ragdoll Cat Forum

OH!!  I am so sorry about Theo!!  How horrible.  I go to a feline only vet – but get rabies because it's required in my city.  Do you know which version of the rabies vaccine that Theo had?

July 24, 2011
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LauraC
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Oh I'm so sorry to hear about Theo, what a terrible thing to happen.

Thank you for posting this to make us aware of the risks. On my first visit to the vets with each kitten they advised that they would give them booster vaccinations and fel-v so I trusted their better knowledge and went along with it. I'm not sure that I could make another choice as I'd be too concerned about them catching something NOT to do it, but at the same time I wasn't aware that there were such risks attached so I'm now going to do some research so that I can ask the right questions and make an informed decision – Sookie's yearly checkup is due soon. 

We don't have any feline only vets around my area that I know of.  My vet is very good in general but I was frustrated when I was told that Darcy was overweight when the vet was clearly baseing this on an average cat size, NOT male ragdoll cat weights.

July 24, 2011
8:35 pm
Kitty Cowgirl
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LauraC said:

Oh I'm so sorry to hear about Theo, what a terrible thing to happen.

Thank you for posting this to make us aware of the risks. On my first visit to the vets with each kitten they advised that they would give them booster vaccinations and fel-v so I trusted their better knowledge and went along with it. I'm not sure that I could make another choice as I'd be too concerned about them catching something NOT to do it, but at the same time I wasn't aware that there were such risks attached so I'm now going to do some research so that I can ask the right questions and make an informed decision – Sookie's yearly checkup is due soon. 

We don't have any feline only vets around my area that I know of.  My vet is very good in general but I was frustrated when I was told that Darcy was overweight when the vet was clearly baseing this on an average cat size, NOT male ragdoll cat weights.

July 24, 2011
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I am not sure which version of the rabies vaccine Theo was given. I presumed any responsible vet would have used the feline version only and wasn't aware there are canine and feline versions.

If your cat is an outdoor cat then the vaccinations are certainly worth the risk. Mine are not and have no exposure to other cats, we don't board them…we do our own grooming, etc. Each person needs to consider and make the decision that's best for them. I just wasn't aware of the risks and blindly trusted my vet.

Read up on vaccinations and any problems your cat may have before you go to your vet. Forewarned is forearmed.

 

Thanks for your kind words.

 

K

July 26, 2011
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Rebecca
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I am very sorry for your loss.  It is hard when the people we trust to care for our furry babies are not capable.   Sadly most vets, not all, are taught and sponsored but the big name drug and food companies.   

July 27, 2011
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I don't know what to do now. My 5 month old Seal Bi-color has an appt. to get neutered a few days before he turns 6 months old. Our vet mentioned that when he neutered him, he could give him his rabies shot at that time. Nicky is an indoor cat only. We have 2 other cats but they are indoors too. We have a doggie door for our dogs but open it only to let them go out to potty then they come right back in and we close the doggie door until next time. We have a fenced in front yard for the dogs so no other animals come around. Do you think it is necessary to give Nicky a rabies shot? I want to do what is best for him.  Thank-you! sf laugh Ragdoll Cat Forum

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August 11, 2011
5:35 am
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Nickysmom said:

I don't know what to do now. My 5 month old Seal Bi-color has an appt. to get neutered a few days before he turns 6 months old. Our vet mentioned that when he neutered him, he could give him his rabies shot at that time. Nicky is an indoor cat only. We have 2 other cats but they are indoors too. We have a doggie door for our dogs but open it only to let them go out to potty then they come right back in and we close the doggie door until next time. We have a fenced in front yard for the dogs so no other animals come around. Do you think it is necessary to give Nicky a rabies shot? I want to do what is best for him.  Thank-you! sf laugh Ragdoll Cat Forum

I just looked at this part of the forum and am probably too late with my suggestion.  Stressor's are very hard on cats, what I mean is vets visits, vaccinations, neuter/spay, etc.  Vet's should know better than to give a rabies along with a surgery, no matter what that surgery is.  I have all indoor cats and no longer vaccinate at all.  I know some people must do it due to state laws, but if you can my opinion would be to vaccinate as little as possible.  And if your cat has ANY bad reaction to a vaccination, get the vet to write that out so that you don't ever have to have that vaccination again.

My healthiest cats are the ones who never had any vaccinations in their life.  We don't travel or board our cats so I can understand why some people feel a need to do so. 

I believe the new rabies protocol is going to three years, instead of every year which never was necessary as many believe it actually is only needed once in a life time.  But then how would the vets make all that money.

August 14, 2011
1:55 pm
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Kitty Cowgirl said:

I am not sure which version of the rabies vaccine Theo was given. I presumed any responsible vet would have used the feline version only and wasn't aware there are canine and feline versions.

If your cat is an outdoor cat then the vaccinations are certainly worth the risk. Mine are not and have no exposure to other cats, we don't board them…we do our own grooming, etc. Each person needs to consider and make the decision that's best for them. I just wasn't aware of the risks and blindly trusted my vet.

Read up on vaccinations and any problems your cat may have before you go to your vet. Forewarned is forearmed.

 

Thanks for your kind words.

 

K

I'm so sorry for your loss, that is heartbreaking.  When I told my vet I was refusing the rabies vaccination (which is required in my area) for my two Ragdolls, she respected that and said she had to inform me that if they were to bite someone, they would have to be quarantined and tested.  I was willing to take that chance in order to avoid the vaccine. 

My breeder recommends only the regular distemper (and whatever is in the combo 4-in-1 vaccine) at 1 year, 4 years, 7 years and no more.  I've taken it a step further, and after much research, had my cats blood titered (at a cost of $175 each) to determine if they still had immunity from their 1 year shots.  I did this at age 4.  One had excellent immunity, one not so much and he got his shot.  I'll test him again in 3 years.  The other will get tested again next year and he will be vaccinated if necessary.  There is a lot of research that shows many cats retain their immunity for quite some time.  The routine "once a year" vaccinations are designed to get people into the vet's office – otherwise why would they go if the pet wasn't sick?  It's their bread and butter.  But it's killing our pets, as there is also a lot of research emerging that over-vaccinating is causing long term health problems such as kidney failure. 

August 16, 2011
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calico said:

I just looked at this part of the forum and am probably too late with my suggestion.  Stressor's are very hard on cats, what I mean is vets visits, vaccinations, neuter/spay, etc.  Vet's should know better than to give a rabies along with a surgery, no matter what that surgery is.  I have all indoor cats and no longer vaccinate at all.  I know some people must do it due to state laws, but if you can my opinion would be to vaccinate as little as possible.  And if your cat has ANY bad reaction to a vaccination, get the vet to write that out so that you don't ever have to have that vaccination again.

My healthiest cats are the ones who never had any vaccinations in their life.  We don't travel or board our cats so I can understand why some people feel a need to do so. 

I believe the new rabies protocol is going to three years, instead of every year which never was necessary as many believe it actually is only needed once in a life time.  But then how would the vets make all that money.

The purity of a person's heart can be quickly measured by how they regard cats. – Anonymous
August 16, 2011
3:14 pm
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Thank-you, you have been a huge help! I was worried about getting him neutered and giving a rabies shot together. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I will go ahead and get him neutered of course, but no rabies shot. At least not at this time. Thank-you again so much! sf laugh Ragdoll Cat Forum

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August 16, 2012
1:46 am
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As a way to help keep you all correctly informed, I am going to post information about vaccination for kitties that is VERY important. Our feline friends have HIGH re-activity to Killed-Virus rabies vaccines (these are the ones that will last for 3 years or more once your pet has received 2 of them). However, the feline rabies vaccination (which only lasts for 1 year) is a Modified-Live vaccination. This is the ONLY rabies vaccine that should ever be used in a cat. However, there are MANY veterinarians that still use Killed-Virus rabies vaccines even though they KNOW it is harmful to your pet. In order for a veterinarian to remain license they are required to do continuing education courses in order to keep up with the BEST possible health care options for your pets. However, not all veterinarians want to change their vaccine protocol or the health care plans just because they learned something newer and better in a CE course. The first rule in finding a veterinarian is to ask them what their vaccine and overall health care protocols are before ever having a first time visit with them. Also, an indoor only cat NEVER needs to be vaccinated against FELV. FELV is ONLY transmissible via direct contact with an infected cat. Another vaccine to avoid entirely, regardless of whether they are indoor only or indoor outdoor is the FIP and the FIV vaccines. FIP vaccines will actually CAUSE FIP and therefore KILL your cat. The FIV vaccine will cause your cat's immune system to THINK it has FIV and will therefore test positively for FIV if the vaccine is ever administered. The other important vaccine for cats is the FVRCP vaccine (in other words the upper respiratory virus vaccination – sometimes called the feline distemper/parvo vaccine which is actually NOT an acceptable name for this vaccine). This vaccine, once the initial kitten series is completed lasts for at least 3 years between each vaccination and can last upwards of 7 years depending on the cat. Some cats maintain immunity better than others which is why it is recommended that the vaccine be given every 3 years.

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